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November 05, 2009

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Justine Musk

I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but c'mon. The 'diversity' we're talking about re: the PW list is one of gender, which impacts every race and class under the sun, unless there's some secret third-sex society living in caves or underground tunnels or something that I don't know about.

And the argument isn't that *half* of that list needed to be books authored by women, just that it's extremely odd that in an industry overrun by women (editors, readers, writers) -- involving an art form (the novel) that was originally perceived in many ways as a woman's entertainment -- that not one female-authored work of fiction (or nonfiction) was deemed worthy or powerful enough to be singled out for such notice.

Given the subjective element at play whenever a list like this is devised, or whenever manuscripts are chosen for publication in the first place, the "why aren't there women writers on that list" question is worth exploring, and the fact that we have to ask it at all, in 2009, is annoying as hell.

As for "just find another list" -- well, that's the point. Women shouldn't have to.

Priscilla

Frankly, I agree with you. If people don't like the list, they should find another one. It's not like we aren't completely overwhelmed with "Best of" lists. And what does it all matter anyway? I seriously doubt that sales are going to slow for Kathryn Stockett's The Help because she didn't make PW's list, or that Sarah Waters is crying in her cereal. And I (like to) imagine that A.S. Byatt and Toni Morrison are above it all, anyway.

Just as a funny side note: I was browsing through the NYT "Best of" book lists from the 1990s, looking for a particular book, and realized that there were many books on those lists I couldn't remember or have never heard of. These things are flashes in the pan, really, when all is said and done.

John Gilmore

In my mind it made the list more legitimate. They must have known they'd see a backlash when they picked the list, and it would have been much easier to switch a few of their original choices for female writers. But they chose not to do that, apparently, and that means they are committed to their methodology.

Now, of course, I'm assuming the committee making selections is staffed with men and women. I would guess that is the case. I think you pick a diverse committee, recognize that all best-ofs are subjective, and stick to your genuine selection, rather than manipulating the final list for political reasons. I believe our culture is male dominated, patriarchal, that women are heavily discriminated against in 2009, that Obama should threaten to veto the health care bill if it isn't stripped of that Stupak BS, but this isn't a political issue, and the goal should be nothing more than the exact list as chosen by the selection committee.

BookFox

Re: Justine and secret-third-sex -- don't forget about hermaphrodites!

Priscilla, you're right. We do need to put "Best of" lists in perspective. Meaning, understand how ephemeral they are.

John, that's an excellent point -- since they knew it would create controversy, it took more courage to stick to their guns.

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